"There's a pretty big gap for us between Brill and the demon with all the torture, and the next bunch down," says Kas. "Micaiah and Jellybean are the closest we've got to 'basically untraumatized', and, you know, they still had dads."

"We're probably a little ahead of the pack, actually," Petaal points out, and Kas nods.

"But Queenie might be ahead by more, after that thing with Voice."